The results are in! I recently conducted a curvy sewing survey to help inform my new size range for my patterns. Spoiler alert - people were very enthusiastic! I am not surprised at all and I am humbled (as always) by the kindness and support from this community. Thank you to everyone who filled out the survey. It is now closed, but I encourage you to read through this post if you are interested in my synopsis.
If you want to know why I am changing my size range, you can read about that here.
I asked around 20 questions in the survey, some multiple choice and some open-ended. We had 688 responses! There were sizing questions, language/labeling questions, and opportunities to share past experiences with 'plus size' pattern lines. What did people like? What did they dislike? Where can we improve? I noticed lots of recurring themes in the answers and they certainly brought clarity to my process.
A few notes about this survey:
This survey is biased. It was filled out primarily by sewists who are 'plus size'. It does not represent the sewing world as a whole, nor can it. I have a limited audience and reach. The purpose of this survey was to help gather information before changing the size range for Helen's Closet.
Many people shared thoughts about the words 'curvy', 'plus size', and 'fat'. Different people prefer different terms for various reasons. I used the term 'curvy' in my survey because that is my personal preferred term, but I recognize that not all 'plus size' sewists identify as 'curvy' and vice-versa.
The terms 'apple' and 'pear' came up A LOT in the survey answers to describe body shapes. These are quite common terms, but they are kinda funny, don't you think? Can we really separate people into two fruit-based categories? Of course not. I have used these terms in my post, but I recognize that they are generalizations and not ideal descriptors.
In a similar vein, words like 'extended', 'expanded', and 'increased' are problematic words for the process of including more sizes. I plan to leave this language out of the patterns themselves. There will not be an 'extended' version of the pattern, there will simply be 'the pattern'.
When is the new size range for Helen's Closet going to be available?
I am launching the new Blackwood Cardigan next week! The new size range features a B-cup option in sizes 0-22 and a D-cup option in sizes 12-30. I explain why I chose this method and how this survey impacted my decisions throughout this post. I can't wait to share the new Blackwood with you all! It will be available as an updated pattern for any past purchasers, no re-purchasing required. All sizes will be included with the purchase of the pattern.
Other existing patterns will be updated this year and I plan to release new patterns with the new size range as well. This will take time and I appreciate your patience. Eventually, all Helen's Closet patterns will have this new size range.
Q: What is your high bust measurement? (rounded to nearest inch)
Q: What is your full bust measurement? (rounded to nearest inch)
Q: What is your waist measurement? (rounded to nearest inch)
Q: What is your hip measurement? (rounded to nearest inch)
Q: What is your cup size? (or closest approximation) Note that this system for determining cup size is full bust minus high bust. If you use the full bust minus underbust system (like in bra sizing) the cup is different (larger). Note that Size E = DD.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? When applicable (patterns with bodices), Helen's Closet patterns will have 2 overlapping size ranges. A 0-22 range based on a B-cup (our current range) and a 12-30 range based on a D-cup. People in the 12-22 range have the option to use either cup size.
Why did I decide to stick with the B-cup? Great question. My original size range is 0-22 and is based on a B-cup. I decided to keep that size range intact so I could focus my energy on adding more sizes. Since I need a new block for these new sizes, I have a chance to choose a new cup. I chose D based on the survey feedback but recognize that there are lots of people with a bust size larger than a D.
I have developed an FBA guide for knits that will be included with the Blackwood Cardigan re-release.
I would love to have more cup size options in the future, like an F/G cup. Once all my patterns have a more inclusive size range, I will revisit this.
Q: What sewing pattern size do you usually make? (or closest approximation) Note that because this is a 'curvy' sewing survey, this is not an accurate representation of all sizes in sewing
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? The new size range for Helen's Closet will go from a size 0 to a size 30. Our current range goes from 0-22, so we are adding 4 new sizes (24, 26, 28, 30). Size 30 does not include everybody, but it is a step in the right direction.
Language/labels:
Q: In the case where pattern sizing is lettered, (S, M, L...) what language would you prefer?
Q: Do you have any suggestions for another size labeling system?
The biggest takeaway here was an overwhelming 'NOPE' for the XXXXL method of sizing. It is silly and offensive. Are we really extra, extra, extra, EXTRA large? No!
There were many suggestions for other naming systems, including letters (A
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? Ultimately, I decided that numbered sizing is the most neutral and efficient. Most of my patterns currently use the S
,M,L ... system. I am going to re-grade the patterns to numerical sizing (14,16,18, 20...) when I re-release them with the new size range. This alsomake it easier to choose an accurate size. Hindsight is 20/20 - I wish I had done this from the beginning, but I am taking action now.
Q: What language do you prefer for an extended size range?
Q: If there is an extended size range, what language do you prefer for the 'original' size range?
Q: Do you have any suggestions for another naming system or thoughts on this subject that you would like to share?
Most people feel that no specific or special language is necessary. We are all people. We are different sizes. Just because the RTW fashion world has separated out 'plus size' doesn't mean our patterns have to reflect that. Whenever possible, neutral and non-plus-size-specific language is preferred.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? My new size range, when applicable (patterns with
bodices ), will have two overlapping patterns. One drafted for a B-cup and one drafted for a D-cup. I have opted not to call one 'misses' and one 'curvy', but instead to label them as 'B-cup' and 'D-cup'. Neutral and descriptive.
Past Experiences
Q: Do you have experiences to share from making other curvy-sized patterns? Anything that bothers you or is consistently a sewing struggle or roadblock?
From the survey answers, it seems the biggest struggle with 'plus-size' patterns is a lack of attention to scaling proportions. As a pattern is graded up, the proportions can start to get out of whack the further you get from the original draft. Gaping necklines, giant armholes, extra-wide shoulders, and sleeves that extend inches beyond the fingertips are just some of the examples shared by sewists.
Just because a person is a larger size, doesn't mean everything about them is larger! Heads, necks, arms, shoulders - these areas don't vary as much as the bust, waist, and hips. In the same vein, 'plus size' people are not necessarily taller.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? In order to change my size range to 0-30, I need to draft a base size 8 and a base size 18. This way, I can grade up and down more accurately.
As a designer, I need to be really careful to check the graded patterns for proportion errors. Indie pattern designers spend A LOT of time with their patterns, so we are in a unique position to take extra care and pay attention to these details. Things may need to be manually adjusted post-grading and testing.
A thorough test of the pattern is necessary. I will get feedback from testers in the whole size range in order to have a clear picture of the fit.
Many people requested that companies show a 'plus size' model wearing the
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? Bodies come in all shapes and sizes, and it is important to show different people wearing my patterns. I have primarily used myself as the model for my patterns in the past, but intend to branch out this year and showcase a variety of sizes, ages, ethnicities, and styles of dress. I can definitely stand to improve in this area. The Blackwood re-launch is going to feature an 'apple' shaped model. Here is a little sneak peek ;)
Another theme I noticed in the survey was contradicting desires for certain styles. For every person saying that sleeves are a requirement for them, there was a sewist wanting more sleeveless options! Each time somebody would express a preference for a larger waist to hip ratio (pear shape), there would be an equal number of people wanting patterns for a larger mid-section (apple shape). In a nutshell, we all want different things - no surprise.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? I will not assume that all sewists want to dress a certain way. Providing a diverse range of patterns so there are lots of options to choose from is my goal. I will try to develop patterns that offer more choices and customization options.
Don't forget the details! It looks weird to have the same sized pocket for a size 2 and a size 28.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? I will consider the proportions of my o
riginal design and grade up and down things like pockets to maintain those proportions.
Selling a new size range: Many people commented about the frustration of having to re-purchase a pattern in order to access more sizes. It is also frustrating to be between two size ranges sold as individual products and have to choose or buy both.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? The new range will be accessible to any past purchasers of a pattern. The pattern will be sold as one unit, so all sizes are included with one purchase.
More finished measurement information and fit guides! This can apply to any pattern designer. People want as much information as possible! Include detailed finished garment measurements and description of the intended fit to help people choose the right size. Many also suggested including a high-bust measurement in the size chart.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? I have improved the finished garment measurement chart for the Blackwood Cardigan. It now includes things like bicep and back width. I have also added additional resources for fitting and adjusting the pattern to the instruction booklet. A high-bust measurement is now included in the size chart.
Beware of printed pages. With more sizes comes more paper! It would be nice not to have to print all the sizes.
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? I put my sizes on layers and that helps to zero-in on the sizes you need for your project. I am also splitting up the pattern when cup-sizing is involved, which reduces the number of pages to print. I provide printing instructions for any pages you don't have to print for certain views, but it is a challenge to lay out a pattern perfectly. In the end, I decided that a few extra pages
is a small price to pay for a more inclusive size range.
Additional thoughts & insights from survey participants:
"Curvy and plus size imply different things! Not every plus-sized person has big hips and a small waist and calls themselves curvy. Not every curvy person is
"The waist measurement is taken where you bend, not the smallest part of the body. The smallest part of a body on a plus-sized woman is likely closer to her bust."
"Everybody is their own 'medium' size"
"Mark the bust, waist and hip lines on the pattern. Mark the bust apex. This helps with pattern adjustments."
Common areas of frustration for fit include:
- Biceps
- Bust
- Tummy
- Hips
- Crotch
What does this mean for Helen's Closet? Sewing patterns are a jumping off point for everyone, regardless of size. I will put more focus on education in my pattern instructions and on my blog. I will endeavor to listen and learn about fit challenges from my customers and testers. For the new Blackwood Cardigan, I am including an FBA guide booklet with the pattern.
Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't mention the HUNDREDS of comments from sewists saying thank you for doing the survey and taking the step towards a more inclusive size range. The excitement and encouragement was amazing! The heartfelt stories and the messages of love and support were simultaneously overwhelming and incredibly motivating. Thank you.
I am launching the new Blackwood Cardigan next week! The new size range features a B-cup option in sizes 0-22 and a D-cup option in sizes 12-30. It will be available as an updated pattern for any past purchasers, no re-purchasing required. All sizes will be included with the purchase of the pattern. I can't wait to share it with you!
Thanks for checking out the survey results, and thank you especially if you contributed to this survey. I hope you found it interesting and useful and I encourage you to comment below. I am interested to hear your thoughts and I am excited about this new development for Helen's Closet Patterns.
Helen
